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Monday, April 25, 2011

A Woman's Role

In the Odyssey a person's roles is determined by their class, age, and gender. At the top of the pyramid are the wealthy men and kings, below them are the male citizens, still further down on the ladder are the women. Even the noble women are considered below any young man. Below women there are only three groups, children, servants and slaves. There are many instances in this story of men exercising their power over women.
In the first several books of the Odyssey it is made very clear that men are superior to women. When Telemachus is introduced to Helen at the palace of Menaleus, the queen clearly feels regret of her actions in Troy. Her image of herself in the past is very negative and she calls herself a "shameless whore" (129:163). She has very little self respect because of the images forced upon her by men. She is considered the most beautiful woman alive at the time and yet she has very little power or confidence. Even though Helen is beautiful she is not considered to be very clever.
Penelope on the other hand is cunning and wise. Even though this wisdom helps her to keep back the suitors, she is frowned upon for being smart and tricky. When Telemachus tells the suitors to leave his house, they blame Penelope calling her "the matchless queen of cunning" (96:95). The suitors believe that she has been leading them on for a very long time. They are disgusted by the idea that a woman can outsmart them. The suitors accuse Penelope of "[exploiting] the gifts Athena gave her-- a skilled hand for elegant work, a fine mind and wubtle wiles too--" (97:128-130). They punish Telemachus for Penelope's supposed wrongs. This introduces the idea that even young men like Telemachus, have power over the women of society, even their own mothers. When Penelope begs the bard to pick a different song Telemachus has the power to send her back to her chambers. He clearly puts his power as the male heir of Odysseus into play saying "Mother go back to your quarters" (89:409-410). He also makes clear the role of women in the household adding "tend to your own tasks, the distafff and the loom, and keep the women working hard as well. As for giving orders, men will see to that" (89:410-414). He explicitly states the male power in the Greek household at the time. It is interesting that he wants the women to work, but at the time all of the men were lounging and eating lazily. Throughout the stories women will bathe the visiting men. This puts the females of the time in a serving role. There are no examples in the story of men bathing women. All of these examples point to the obvious male dominance during the time of the Odyssey.

6 comments:

  1. Line 22 (3rd paragraph) you have a typo; in the quote, "[exploiting] the gifts Athena gave her-- a skilled hand for elegant work, a fine mind..." etc: *subtle wiles
    you said "wubtle"
    just FYI

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  2. Well what if I like wubtle better. I'm going to wtart waying that all the time!

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  3. I agree with what Lena's saying in the sense that women are inferior to men. I would like to add a concept to this thinking that women are portrayed in a negative light. To expand upon the situation between Penelope and her suitors, they speak of her in a completely negative light. For example when Antinous was speaking to the suitors he said, "'So by day she'd weave at her great and growing web- by night, by the light of torches set beside her, she would unravel all she'd done. Three whole years she deceived us blind, seduced us with this scheme'"(96). In this passage, they are basically calling Penelope a seductress and essentially a liar. They also call her a tease and a flirt numerous times throughout the story. Another woman who can also identify with these nicknames is Helen. She even says, "'shameless whore that I was'"(129). She admittedly says that she used to be a whore, which also puts women in a bad lighting. Another goddess is even referred to as lustrous. The goddess Calypso was also portrayed as an evil goddess keeping Odysseus from reaching his native land. She is also looked down upon from the gods from sleeping with only a mortal man when the gods have no issues sleeping with mortal woman. This is a complete total standard in which they hold women to. Calypso recognizes this double standard and said, "'You unrivaled lords of jealousy- scandalized when goddesses sleep with mortals, openly, even when one has made the man her husband'"(156). Another example of a woman portrayed in a negative sense is Clytemnestra. While her husband was away at war, like Penelope, she had suitors begging for her hand. Nestor, recalling this story, said "'As first, true, she spurened the idea of such an outrage, Clytemnestra the queen, her will was faithful still'" (116). The keywords in this quote are "at first" and "still". These keywords seem to fade out considering she does give into a suitor who planned to kill her then husband upon his return. In general, I think that the females in The Odyssey are conveyed in a negative sense, except for the goddess Athena. Athena, on the other hand, is seen as a very powerful and caring woman. At many times, she is seen helping Odysseus continue through his constant struggles on his journey back home to Ithica. She is seen helping him look more attractive to the eyes of Nausicaa, along with guiding him back to her father's palace. Athena is also seen helping him through the seas, stopping some harsh winds. There are many other mentions of Athena disguising herself to help both Odysseus and his son, Telemachus. These examples show her great power and positive aura, unlike the rest of the women conveyed through auras of trickery and negativity.

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  4. Another fine dialogue. Well done. I am proud of these efforts.

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  5. women are not inferior to men okay. got it? good.

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